Sean (Shadowhowler)
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Post by Sean (Shadowhowler) on Dec 25, 2010 18:35:19 GMT
As if anyone could MAKE you do anything... your lovely lady maybe, but me? Not likely. Besides... you've done a fair job of avoiding me, you scoundrel... :lol:
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Post by Marc Kaden Ridgeway on Dec 25, 2010 19:36:29 GMT
LOL... not avoiding you Sean, it's just that they fired half the staff in my dept. at work... so off days are hard to find... we could always do the ship thing... or maybe meet someday in the next week or so.
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Post by chuckinohio on Jan 8, 2011 12:24:35 GMT
Hey folks, I apologize for being out of circulation since Christmas. I'll try to do a decent facsimile of a review or two for the site in the near future. I've acquired some fairly unique pieces and it is only fair to share with you all. I dont want to make Sean squirm none, I'm slowly working on getting him to throw that rug in on a deal
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2011 10:23:09 GMT
I must say that for me I find it refreshing that neither politics nor religion are allowed subjects, this enable me to focus on my hobby, will not have to worry about offending others because of my personal views etc. Of course there may be a time where our local governments does something that may/will affect our chosen hobby (ban of certain types of blades etc.), there I can possibly see folks commenting on those issues as long as it does not get out of hand. Wishing all a Great Day. Dan.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2011 11:07:27 GMT
I am only new to the forum but it is obvious to me that the two topics should be left at the door. Ever since the dawn of time religion and politics have done nothing but created rifts between cultures, destroying our friendship and civilisations. No one should let their leaders (either religious or political) dictate who they can or cannot be friends with. Everybody is different, that being said it reasons that their views and opinions will be different, imagine if we were swords would you want everyone to be the same (there goes the hobby). Our hobby should unite all people not drive us apart, you don't have to be Japanese to appreciate the beauty of The Katana, you do not have to be a Muslim to fall in love with the curves of a Scimitar. It is these cultural (also religious and political) differences that make our hobby what it is. If everyone respects each others views on these two subjects by keeping theirs to themselves, we can start world peace here. Given the road that Governments are currently taking, the only politics that matter should be "Our right to Own and Collect Arms" which is under constant attack.
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Post by Sean (Shadowhowler) on Apr 6, 2011 16:41:50 GMT
Gimme $5,350 in either cash or trade and its yours with a smile... :)
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Post by Taran on Dec 3, 2011 0:15:46 GMT
Katanas are against my religion. They need to go. Oh, and Euro swords, they're all political and... stuff. They should go, too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2011 21:42:35 GMT
At any U.S. Army social function, adopted from the British, there are three topics which are forbidden. This can be enforced through the Uniform Code of Military Justice were it to become required. These topics are Religion, Politics and Woman. Reasoning behind this is the combination of alcohol, heated discussion and proximity of combat weapons. To my knowledge no one in our history has been harmed for lack of these topics, It is well within the concepts of the American Constitution for this ban to be used elsewhere for maintenance of good order .... and good humor.
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Post by 14thforsaken on Dec 27, 2011 16:19:27 GMT
Actually, no. When you enter the service and thus fall under the UCMJ, you forfeit some of your civilian rights, such as the conversation ban you mentioned above. To try to apply that same ban across the board would against the concepts of the constitution, especially the first amendment.
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Post by Sean (Shadowhowler) on Dec 27, 2011 20:29:58 GMT
Hm... First off, I've been to many a Army Social Function... but more for the Navy... never heard mention of this restriction. However... a internet board is a privately paid for and operated space... and you have to be approved by the one(s) who run it to take part in it. Those running the board are well within their legal rights to create and enforce codes of conduct on those boards... and remove anyone who breaks those codes. Think of it this way... the forum is the same as private property for the one who owns/runs it. A man has a right to invite, and then later ask to leave, anyone, for any reason, from his private property. We who are guests on this board are to abide by the rules set down by the one who runs it... if we chose not to, then we are free to leave... there is NOTHING unconstitutional about someone saying who can and can not be present on his private property, or what rules to abide by while someone is there. There is a disturbing sense of entitlement I see by people who say 'You have no right to censor me on your own board' that I can not understand.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2011 22:11:43 GMT
My point is that there are precedents. This is not the first or only vinue to employ the restriction. Actually, I thought the better quote would have been: "To my knowledge no one in our history has been harmed for lack of these topics."
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Post by rvhernandez on Dec 27, 2011 22:38:30 GMT
I think that as a private enterprise, SBG Forum has the right to lay down certain rules of etiquette in the interest of maintaining peace and civility, and the decorum its membership wishes to maintain. Just as a restaurant can request that gentlemen wear a coat and tie, or "no shirt, no service" type policies. Censorship is a different concept all together. SBG Forum is not trying to squash our opinions on religion or politics, or change them to conform to their views. We can all certainly go somewhere else and exercise our right to give our opinions on those topics in other venues if you really feel the need. Right?
The real up shot about all this, in reading Paul's own words and experience, is how sad that many folk don't know how to conduct civil discussions on these topics without becoming nasty and spiteful. Even though I was raised by older, culturally conservative parents who preached the same philosophy of "never discuss religion or politics", thankfully I received a good liberal arts education to know it is possible to conduct these type of conversations without getting personal. In the mean time, we abide by the rules and enjoy what we all come here for...sword talk and education!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2011 23:09:08 GMT
Here,here revhernandez. However, in reguards to people being nasty and spiteful, religion has killed more people in the history of Western civilization than any other aspect of human life. Politics is the next greatest killer. Often times religion and politics were the same.
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Post by Marc Kaden Ridgeway on Dec 27, 2011 23:19:23 GMT
Mr. Caron... you are proceding to discuss politics and religion in the thread that is explaining why we don't discuss them. I can think of no more disrespectful way to thumb your nose at the guy putting up the nickles for this place.
Please stop.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2011 23:39:38 GMT
I do apologize. As I left the site after making that last comment I began to wonder about that very thing. There is a difference between discussing a "thing" as a topic vs. discussing it as a subject. No insult of infraction was intended.
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Post by rvhernandez on Dec 28, 2011 2:39:44 GMT
Good call Marc...
for quickly spotting the drift in conversation that precisely begins the journey down the 'slippery slope', as they say, and to which with no question to Mr. Caron's good intentions as he states in his apology, yet we digress from the very thing that we all come here for. Our love for things pointy and sharp... :)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2011 3:06:02 GMT
I surely hope that it can be seen that I am in total support of this two topic ban. I really feel dumb because of this.
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Post by 14thforsaken on Dec 28, 2011 4:54:04 GMT
Sean, when I said across the board, I meant it as restricting free speech across every aspect of life, not this board in particular. It probably was a poor choice of terms since I was referring to public speech in general and not the forums in specific.
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Post by Sean (Shadowhowler) on Dec 28, 2011 7:04:36 GMT
Fair enough. I am a huge supporter of freedom of speech as a society... I just also realize and accept a persons right to run their house as they see fit. :)
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Post by whiteknight on Feb 10, 2012 11:16:42 GMT
Hello SBG Members,
I just got a post deleted in the "viking sword question thread". I wanted members to know it was there. I also want members to know that when the member preceding that post cursed at me in his post, I responded firmly, but very respectfully. So there was a response of moderate length, which is deleted.
I was told the reason for its deletion was that I must never talk about a forum in such a way that might be seen as negative, & I must not talk about a company in a way that might seem negative. No mention was made of not talking about the member who openly cursed at me in a negative way, though the only negative comments were about said individual, and they were presented in a civil manner. Though they depicted him in a negative light due to his actions on another forum (WHICH SHALL REMAIN NAMELESS), so I guess that is why I was told I talked negatively of a forum.
Anyway, to those of you lucky enough to see the post before it was deleted, maybe you are now aware of some things. Though it is likely thatmost of those few already were aware of what has been going on on those internet forums (who shall remain nameless).
So I just wanted to let members know there was a response there at one time. It's a weird feeling to be cursed at, then respond, and watch ur response get whisked away, while your assailant's words remain.
Oh well... :) It's all good... I learned alot about censorship, the forums, and the moat today... (maybe my post is now in the moat, where only the admins can see it-- no, it's gine, I'm sure)
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