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Post by kurokaze on Dec 2, 2010 23:25:38 GMT
Anyone know where I might find information on such a thing? Or, if not, does anyone know a good supplier? There has got to be something better than the Atlanta Cutlery one...
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Post by Spathologist on Dec 3, 2010 0:40:11 GMT
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Post by kurokaze on Dec 3, 2010 19:19:42 GMT
Actually, those are perfect. I'm not too concerned about accuracy, just don't want my sabre to get away from me while cutting. Thanks very much. +1 for that.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Dec 4, 2010 0:20:45 GMT
Hi:
The US 1904 is one of my favorite GP knots; just need to be aware that this sort of binding doesn't do well with a wider guard where the knot connects to the sword. If there isn't enough free play for the loop it may torque and pop loose pretty easily on some of these knots. I use the 1904 on my Patton sabers; but it isn't the best match ( but the "official" 1913 sword knot has the same problem anyways. )
There are some other options depending on what your sword is, but the WPGs are good quality, embarassingly inexpensive (from UAE I believe), and will arrive pretty quickly. ( I just ordered 5 more the other day. )
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Post by Spathologist on Dec 4, 2010 12:45:58 GMT
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Post by kurokaze on Dec 6, 2010 4:47:02 GMT
It's for my US M1860 light, so the guard isn't too wide. Do let me know if you can think of a better choice though; with your collection (which I might add is very impressive, especially the Weaponedge Hadik Hussar saber) you probably have a lot of experience as to what would be best for which saber. I'm just starting to get into sabers, mostly because of a dearth of functional smallswords. Thanks very much for you input.
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Post by kurokaze on Dec 6, 2010 4:51:04 GMT
Very beautiful work. Thank you for the pictures, though it's a bit outside my budget.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Dec 6, 2010 11:23:39 GMT
This may be OBE if you've already called up the WPG site, but this knot was developed specifically with the M1860 in mind. Consequently it will fit all "french styled" hilts with stirrup/bow guards and half basket 2-3 ribs. Many early modern sabers have a knot slot at the base of the guard as a start point for the knot. This knot will work with many of those. You mentioned the Hadik Sabre. Very nice sword. Little overbuilt for a classic hussar sabre. Weaponedge is in a state of turmoil since the death of their founder. They have been reaching out to vendors and purchasers for photos and swords so they can recover engineering data for their models ( ?). Hopefully they will be back into production soon. Stromlo and KOA are both waiting....
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Post by narrowboater on Jan 19, 2014 2:47:09 GMT
hello, my main interest is collecting Napoleonic era British sabres/swords and found it difficult to obtain what i wanted so i decided to make my own using a 5/8 x 2.5 to 3.00mm leather belt blank, to form the tassel i use 5mm x 1.5mm thick leather strip cut in to lengths sew then together then sew them to the belt strap, decorate with the same strip into a Turks head knot the slide is formed from spare cut off the belt blank. first one i made took a bit longer than i thought about 4-hours today I've just completed my forth, i believe the U.S cavalry used some thing very similar to the British cavalry campaign sword knot hope this is of help to some one out there, it saves having to buy what you know isn't quite right and certainly a lot cheaper, cost is in the region of £5.00 about $8.00 all purchased from eBay David (narrowboat Louisa) England
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jan 19, 2014 4:45:36 GMT
Wouldn't have a pic of your finished knot? My understanding is that enlisted cav knots for British swervice were true buff. There are several Aussie vendors on ebay selling what they claim to be WWI service surplus. Don't know if that's true or not, but they are excellent lanyards and am using 6 on my period sabres now.
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Jan 19, 2014 10:29:20 GMT
You may be making a tragic mistake. We are not exactly overburdened with historically accurate sabers, either. I used to think, "Yeah, the replicas aren't bad at all" but after Dave talked me into a French 1822 ligere, well, let's just say my eyes were opened. At least now we've got a much better selection of replicas, though, compared to just a few years ago.
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Post by narrowboater on Jan 19, 2014 18:10:52 GMT
as these are for my own private collection i haven't got round to mounting them on to any of my swords yet, how do i send you photos of them any way, i have sourced a very small business selling a replica buff knot in the U.K.excellent price £20.00 +postage against military heritages price i can post the web site information if you are interested according to what information i have so far obtained yes the cavalry used a buff knot, i bought 2 of these from Australia they appear very clean for something dated 1918 !!!!!! sorry forgot to mention the knots i have so far made are for the rifle brigade all black leather and one for the 1900 dragoons white leather gold tassel and Turks head thanks for the interest David
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