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Post by steffen on Oct 25, 2010 18:20:16 GMT
other than the Windlass Coustille, which other daggers with 16" blades are out there? i haven't set a budget yet, but looking for a good compromise between high quality and low cost.
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Post by steffen on Oct 25, 2010 20:44:00 GMT
something in this style would be great, however i realize i cant be too picky in the SBG price range.
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Post by 14thforsaken on Oct 26, 2010 0:08:14 GMT
A 16" blade would be more of a short sword than a dagger.
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Post by Lunaman on Oct 26, 2010 0:43:30 GMT
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Oct 26, 2010 7:24:34 GMT
Steffan, it's not exactly 14", but it is fairly close and is quite similar to the design you're looking for. The Windlass Poignard: www.kultofathena.com/product.asp ... e=Poignard
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Post by Sébastien on Oct 28, 2010 15:19:01 GMT
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Post by gator on Oct 29, 2010 1:53:40 GMT
While it's not a medieval period dagger, I really like my CS Naval Dirk. I just picked another one intending on re-hilting it with a more sword like hilt...like the one in your drawing. www.swordsdirect.com/naval-dirk-short-swords.htmlHmmm....While looking for a link with a pic I noticed that they may have been discontinued.
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Post by Bogus on Oct 29, 2010 23:13:49 GMT
If you're willing to compromise a little bit on length, there are quite a few daggers and main gauche around 12" blade length at very reasonable prices. There's a couple of cheap SLO type daggers that clock in at around 15" but I wouldn't really recommend them for heavy duty cutting or anything.
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Post by Cold Napalm on Oct 30, 2010 23:19:10 GMT
Why 16 inch blades on a dagger? Unless your making that into a short sword, a dagger with a blade that long is gonna be pretty dang delicate as far as the blade goes. The coustille isn't really a dagger...it's a short short sword. I do know of two daggers that have 16 inch blades, one is a rondel and the other is a proto rondel. But to say that true dagger with blades that long is rare is an understatement. Now for dagger with 12+ inch blades, that isn't so rare and many options exists for that .
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Post by steffen on Oct 31, 2010 7:57:09 GMT
such a shame, it looked very interesting. i recall to have seen it on KOA, but cant find it there anymore.
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Post by steffen on Oct 31, 2010 8:03:48 GMT
because i have a 12" dagger, i might get a better/nicer one, but that is another discussion. if i say short sword with a 16" blade, are there more choices?
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Oct 31, 2010 8:15:21 GMT
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Post by MOK on Oct 31, 2010 12:37:16 GMT
Daggers this large, with blades around 16" long, were actually not quite that rare, historically. See this thread on myArmoury.com for a number of museum photos and period illustrations. As for the Windlass Coustille, it certainly does look like a miniature Type XIV sword, but the handling is distinctly dagger-like, with a center of balance right in the middle of the crossguard - I do love it to bits, especially after I rewrapped the grip, but in fact would prefer just a bit more blade presence. BTW, I don't really see any reason why a long dagger would be any more delicate than a shorter one. Can you elaborate on that?
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Post by steffen on Oct 31, 2010 14:54:17 GMT
the d guard bowie was interesting, very messer-like(when the guard has been slightly modified). at 70$ i am a bit sceptical towards the quality.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Oct 31, 2010 16:02:56 GMT
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Post by steffen on Oct 31, 2010 16:54:42 GMT
the d-guard bowie is now on my to-get list.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Oct 31, 2010 17:24:45 GMT
Haha, that's what I said after reading that review.
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Post by Cold Napalm on Oct 31, 2010 17:28:41 GMT
Compared to existing dagger and knives samples...oh yes they are. Almost all the very long daggers given as examples in that thread are around 12 inch blades, not 16+. I'm talking about actual daggers and not the picture examples.
As for the coustille...many short swords are balanced like that. Especially if they are on the short side, like coustille or cinquedeas.
As for why a long dagger is more delicate then a short sword is because the dagger's blade would be more narrow with a thinner tang when compared to a short sword.
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Post by Cold Napalm on Oct 31, 2010 17:33:22 GMT
Umm...you do know that longer doesn't mean it's better or nicer right?
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Post by Sébastien on Oct 31, 2010 18:07:58 GMT
AFAIK, there's mostly 10-12'' daggers and than 18'' + short swords in the euro market, with little in-between.
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