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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Oct 3, 2010 3:13:09 GMT
Okay, guys- here's the deal. My sister has requested a fixed blade knife that she can carry in her purse, for self defense as well as overall general tasks, but the focus is the former of those. As such, the knife must be purse-sized, or less than 7" OAL, preferably 5-6". It also needs to be a good design for these tasks- 60% self defense, 40% EDC. A BIG preference, though not a requirement, is that it is 'pretty', AKA, not tactical, possible wood handle, etc. Like I said- not required, but that would be nice... Most of all- price! I'm hoping for sub $50, and the cheper is better, but I'm open to any suggestion. So.. do any of you guys know of something that might work for her? :?: I'll be greatly indebted to anyone who can help, as the only maker whose wares I know well is Cold Steel, and they don't know what 'small' means, let alone 'pretty'. Thanks! -Slayer
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Post by Salmoxis on Oct 3, 2010 3:43:32 GMT
Maybe a Rat Izula ( www.eseeknives.com/neck_knife.htm). It has pretty high reviews from people. It's available in a few different colors (black, desert tan, olive drab, and pink), and you can wrap the handle up in paracord or make/get some handle slabs if you want. OAL is a little over 6". I think if you look around a bit you can find it for $40 new, though I haven't really searched that much. Personally, I don't think a knife that small would be all that great for self-defense. Maybe get her some pepper spray, if that's legal for you to carry around, for defense. Probably most knives categorized as "neck knives" would fit the bill, and it would just be up to her whether or not it's pretty.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2010 4:15:15 GMT
Well, those custom EDC knives that Cris Anderson has made were all around 7" long, total... it costs much more than your price range though. Like, 3-4 times, or something like that. They're damn shmexy pieces of steel though, and sized to the individual based on measurements you give him of your hand, which is preeeeetty awesome in my book. He may or may not be accepting more commissions or w/e right now. I really don't know. Either way, probably not what your looking for. Personally, I don't really find too many things $50 and under "pretty" nowadays. >_< If I were in the same situation, I would want to buy something that I'd be absolutely certain would not fail under any normal circumstance, and also be ridiculously good-lookin', so it'd end up being, like, nearly no expenses spared, which would end up with me not getting anything for her. Yeah, I don't give presents too often because of my odd 'perfectionism'. Also probably because when I'm trying to buy people things, I can't see it from their point of view, so it'd be like me buying a present for myself. :? Sorry I couldn't help, but Salmoxis' suggestion looks promising, eh? Looks like they also come in pink!
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Oct 3, 2010 4:21:13 GMT
There's the Cold Steel Kobun: www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store ... ml?s=CS17T Or, if you wanted to splurge a bit, the Benchmade CSK II: www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store ... ?s=BM158BK Those are just my personal choices, (as well as the only sub-7" fixed blades on my list, but there's also any number of standard Ka-bars and probably the Cold Steel Recon Tanto, but I think it's about 3/4" longer than your requirement).
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Oct 3, 2010 4:51:50 GMT
Thanks Salmoxis! That isn't exactly what I had in mind, but it's a great idea nonetheless! Consider it added to the 'maybe' list. Dom- Yeah, the knives Cris was making would be PERFECT. Dang, those were awesome... if I had extra $, I'd go with that, definitely. Vincent- Thanks for the ideas, man! I'd like to point out that the 7" limit is OAL, not blade length, and both of those are much larger at 10" and 11" OAL. I appreciate the help, though! Keep 'em coming, guys. I'm sure there's something perfect out there. -Slayer
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Post by Salmoxis on Oct 3, 2010 5:08:52 GMT
Also, does it need to be a fixed blade? There are some pretty nice looking folders out there. Unless she's doing some really heavy cutting, a folder should hold up fine.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Oct 3, 2010 5:41:59 GMT
Well, then, damn, but you're kinda SOL. A fixed blade that is 5-6" overall would be worthless as a self defense knife, because you would be hard pressed to get a solid grip, there would most likely be no guard (or one so insignificant it might as well be non-existent), and you'd probably be paying a hefty price since it's something of a niche market. The closest I could find is this Spyderco and it's about triple your price range: www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store ... ?s=SPFB15P However, if you're willing to go for a folder, there is, pardon the expression, a veritable sempriniton of knives that meet both your budget and your specifications. Two such knives are the CRKT Drifter: www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store ... ?s=CR6450K Or, a bit more pricey, but still in your range, the CRKT Hissatsu Folder II: www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store ... l?s=CR2900 Plus, I think pretty much any Spyderco knife would fit the bill, but I honestly have trouble believing such a tiny knife could be used as anything other than an EDC blade.
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Post by ineffableone on Oct 3, 2010 8:24:31 GMT
Check out www.knivesplus.com/BECKER-KNIVES.htmlBecker Knives have become some of the most respected knives for everyday carry and serious outdoor use. I would recommend the Becker BKT-2 but they have quite a few other nice knives. Rat cutlery knives are also very good quality knives.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2010 12:39:27 GMT
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Post by nihontoman on Oct 3, 2010 14:53:18 GMT
hello, this is the knife your sister wants: www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store ... =BO02BO280 I think it is pretty enough (though it is tactical looking too). also, my mother really liked the looks of this knife heres a video from some guy on youtube: you can see that the handle is of a pretty nice design.... it should be good at both utilitarian and self-defense tasks.
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Post by chuckinohio on Oct 3, 2010 19:18:56 GMT
Cold Steel Double Agent II I have one and it is a neat little knife for cheap. It is easily carried however you wish, takes a hell of an edge, and affords a solid forward or reverse grip.
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Post by chuckinohio on Oct 3, 2010 20:21:56 GMT
I would NOT want to run across a girl that carried a BK-2 in her purse for self defense She could fend off a mugger, cut some tent stakes, skin an elk, and cut her way out of a burning city bus!! On second thought, is she single
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Oct 3, 2010 22:18:38 GMT
Thanks for the advice, guys! InEffableOne- I think Becker has a couple that could fit the bill QUITE nicely, so +1 to you, NF1 (somehow I had missed that link). The BKT-2 is 10.5" OAL, but the BKT-11 and -13 would both work well for the purpose. Nihontoman- another +1 going to you. That would be GREAT, if she agrees to a knife that large. If not, I'll go with one of the Beckers... but that thing is EPIC looking. :shock: Chuck-NICE knife you got there, man. I like it... and I want one. I'm afraid that was one of the first ones I suggested, though, and she vetoed it as too 'tactical'. It really does look dangerous, like a weapon rather than a tool. :? I like it, though! Oh, and btw... She's married. -Slayer
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Oct 3, 2010 22:22:37 GMT
Fallschirmjager- Hey man! Sry, I had overlooked your post in my last reply. That knife won't work for her, I don't think... just lots of details are off (I should've mentioned that single edged is better, and the length is 7.5", etc). HOWEVER! Thanks a LOT for posting it, as I've wanted a good, cheap diving knife that straps to my thigh for, like, 2 decades, and I'm not even that old. I appreciate it, man. Everyone else- THANKS for the input, I appreciate it, and keep it coming if you have any more ideas. -Slayer
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2010 22:58:12 GMT
A boot knife might fit the bill. There are a lot of 1 edged variants out there. Here is my own Smith and Wesson boot knife that i got off ebay for $30 4-5 years ago. Never sharpened it, it's already razor sharp and rarely used. Also it is small so it would fit easily in your purse. Sorry pics are off my phone, bleh. I'll brb with the measurements soon as i find a tape measure. Blade is 4 1/8 inches, grip is 3 7/8 in. All i can say it is very light, i don't have a fine scale
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2010 23:17:20 GMT
There's a lot of great self-defense knives in the 7" OAL range. However, if on the off chance your friend actually needs to use it for self-defense, an important consideration is legal carry size. For example, legal carry in Illinois is 3.5" blade but Iowa is 5.5" blade length - big difference. Your friend's life is most important, but she's probably more likely to have her purse checked during a traffic stop than kill someone with it - just something to keep in mind.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Oct 3, 2010 23:36:56 GMT
Nice looking knife, darkrice! Do you know who makes it? :?: Hall- My sister, actually. And yeah, that's a GREAT point. Here in Fl, lade length isn't an issue... ANYTHING is okay. The issue is when it's 'concealed', which only a folding knife is okay for... but the definition of concealed is variable, and there are a lot of details and such. :roll: Anyway, yeah, I know the laws. Thanks for making sure, man! -Slayer
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2010 0:01:40 GMT
S & W; Smith and Wesson;
7" blade slayer? damn that's nearly the size of a kabar at 7.5
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Oct 4, 2010 0:08:52 GMT
Hall is right: your sister's life is most important, but it's just as important to be aware of the laws regarding such things. The exact wording on what constitutes a weapon, as stated in Florida's legislation, is thus: 790.001. Definitions. (3)(a) "Concealed weapon" means any dirk, metallic knuckles, slungshot, billie, tear gas gun, chemical weapon or device, or other deadly weapon carried on or about a person in such a manner as to conceal the weapon from the ordinary sight of another person.
(13) "Weapon" means any dirk, metallic knuckles, slungshot, billie, tear gas gun, chemical weapon or device, or other deadly weapon except a firearm or a common pocketknife. With this in mind, a folder is ideal for your purposes as you can make the argument that it is a pocket knife due to the fact that a pocket knife can be loosely defined as a folding knife that can fit into a pocket (without being exposed, I would wager), so, unless you got were stopped by a really pissy cop, you'd be in the clear. Also keep in mind that, during a traffic stop, a cop only has the right to search you if you give consent, otherwise it becomes an illegal search and seizure, something our constitution protects against. The only way the officer could make such a thing is by proving your sister gave him probable cause that she was committing a crime (even if stopped for a traffic violation). Now, with this in mind, I would recommend the Harley-Davidson LFK by Benchmade; it's a little over your price point, but is still affordable and would make an excellent self defense knife, as well as suitable for EDC tasks: www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store ... ?s=BM13220
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Oct 4, 2010 0:20:38 GMT
Darkrice- nah, man. 7" overall, lol. Vincent- Very cool info, thanks! Yeah, I'm starting to think I should suggest a folder... it's just smarter, and there are SOOO many choices. I'll chat w/ her tonight on FB and ask. If so, I'll let you guys know and either change the title (if applicable) or start a new thread. Thanks! -Slayer
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