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Post by admin on Dec 24, 2006 10:23:02 GMT
Hey guys, Just thought I'd let you all know that I've added a new page to SBG specifically on Scimitars and Falchions (or Falchions and Scimitars - but you know what I mean ) I've included a few readers reviews and added some links to external reviews and info, as well as a very cool cutting vid from cold steel. Naturally, if anyone out there has any of the other swords that they want to submit a review on - it will be neatly included in this section on the site. Let me know what you think and if you have any suggestions or feedback: good, bad or indifferent... Cheers, - Paul
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2006 20:50:59 GMT
Good page Paul. That Gross Messer is just my style This forum is going very well. It has attracted some very bright and well informed people. Everyone is also so curtious here, we don't have any of those flaming war problems that I see in other forums over petty issues. Everyone has a right to their own opinion.
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Post by rammstein on Dec 29, 2006 17:52:48 GMT
I'm afraid I'm going to disagree about the grosse messer bein the best. in my opinion it is waaay overpriced and comes of as a chunck of metal rather than a true falchion. Russ Ellis, one of the most elite scabbard makers, has a small review of it here: www.tritonworks.com/reviews?content=reviews&review=coldsteel_grosseon the other hand, I think the German Falchion and the Archer's falchion, both made by windlass are supurb peices, if only for looks (as I've not heard much about handling.)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2006 20:09:17 GMT
That was some good info you dug up Rammstein on that Gross Messer.
!@#$% wallhanger !!!
You never know what you have until you test it.
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Post by rammstein on Dec 29, 2006 21:39:33 GMT
wallhangers + Rammstein = bad compination ;D!
can't stand the junk.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2006 23:59:10 GMT
I think the owner of that particular grosse messer was merely unlucky. I've personally used one and was not the nicest person in the world to it. It handled like a dream and cut good too.
And look at the coldsteel demo videos. They've got poor form and they're probably not completely honest, but it's hard to fake a grosse messer cleaving through a phone book into an oak block several times in a row and not being damaged.
Being production, there's bound to be some bad ones that get out. Even Cheness has had two instances where the blade was welded to the tang - yet we still reccommend Shura and Tenchi katanas...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2006 0:14:25 GMT
It worries me a bit when people say the cold steel grosse messer is slow on recovery and doesn't balance well(I just read the cold-steel section on SBG).
It certainly DID balance poorly, but they have since added some distal taper to it. It's quite amazing actually. All the newer grosse messers almost float. I handled one right next to an Atrim at a recent ren. faire, and they were comparable.
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Post by admin on Dec 31, 2006 10:06:16 GMT
Excellent feedback, thanks guys! I've incorporated a little from both ends here. But I tend to think that it's still a pretty good sword overall (I wasn't aware that the new model has a distal taper, thanks Adam - have added that tidbit of info in the review). Actually, I think that its really great to be able to get feedback like this from you guys as I will always incorporate it to make my pages as relevant and up to date as possible..
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Post by rammstein on Jan 1, 2007 19:56:32 GMT
hey thanks Paul for your readiness to listen to us . Though it might be a small, islolated forum thing (like our's here), its nice when we can have one on one discussions and share opinions with the guy who runs this awesome site here's a disturbing piece from myarmoury however that I found... "If the buyer is looking for a historically accurate Grosse Messer that handles with agility and ease while maintaining cutting power, this sword will not fit that order. There are too many inconsistencies present when compared to historical counterparts. The extreme weight and sluggish handling prevents it from being considered a weapon for martial arts use, and the lack of subtlety of form and line will keep it from being appealing to the collector looking for an authentic replica."
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Post by rammstein on Jan 1, 2007 20:01:51 GMT
this myarmoury picture is disturbing as well...
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Post by admin on Jan 2, 2007 0:12:26 GMT
I'm pretty sure that the observations on the sluggishness of the blade are not relevant for the current distally tapered version and bow to Adam's recent experience handling this new version.. The brazed pommel is noted in Nathan's Review on My Armory as a little odd but unlikely to break. But still, it does look a little short and could be a tad longer (though perhaps the newer version has improved the length or method of threading - I don't know). All in all, the official cold steel price of US$299 is probably a bit rich - but for $189.99 it's pretty much right on the money...
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Post by rammstein on Jan 2, 2007 14:12:27 GMT
I made an interesting post in myarmoury to get info about the messer / falchion confusion. Paul, if you want to be historically accurate, I guess you'd have to change the topic to "Messers, Falchions, and Scimitars". A messer and a falchjion, while similar are not the same thing. Messers have more of what we would assosciate as a kitchen knife handle while falchions have more of a sword-like handle. The grosse messer is undoubtably a messer (if a shady one )
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Post by rammstein on Jan 4, 2007 23:01:10 GMT
on a sidenote, the post I made about this has been made into a spotlight topic because of all of the info on that people have posted on it.
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Post by admin on Jan 5, 2007 11:56:19 GMT
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