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Post by shadowhowler on Jul 2, 2009 5:24:51 GMT
well I did talk to chris from reliks and he says I could get the castile sharpened if need be so its edge may not be an issue and I do realize the vast difference between the arming sword and the bristol, I kind of like the bristol better because a short sword would be very nice to handle, from my expirience with Wooden swords I have always preferred a short sword Im still not overly concerned worried about the weight, because I think that It is something I would be able to work past if it was an issue and if not than I will atleast have learned a valuable lesson about my personal sword preference If you like the Castile... I urge you to wait just a bit. Sonny at VA told me they are working on the next-gen Castile swords... they are going to be built of a different Angus Trim blade design... a type X with flared shoulders. It will be lighter then the first gen Castile, and with a MUCH better edge. I had two Castile's, I sold them... but I just might pick up the new one when it comes out, it sounds awesome. As for the Practical and the Bristol swords... I have both, and I love my Bristol a LOT more... but it is a lot more money also... and I tend to prefer short swords as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2009 5:31:46 GMT
If you like your ninjato more then the katana, then the bristol maybe a good fit for you. Some people like certain blades because it just moves with the way they move...if you like shorter blades, I say go for the bristol (if you can afford it).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2009 5:52:06 GMT
I do like how my ninjato handles more than the katana, though I haven't cut nearly as much with my katana ( I like the katana more aesthetically though because its friggen gorgeous !) Im very much leaning towards the Bristol though, mostly because everytime I look at it it calls to me, I love everything about it, the geometry the fittings, the scabbard the belt, the whole package screams URIAH YOU WANT ME ! (yeah my names Uriah fun fact Uriah backwards is Hairu, it makes for a cooler ninja name)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2009 6:32:51 GMT
Hehe cool play on your name...uriah I think would make an awesome ninja name...nobody would expect a ninja to be named uriah, it's the best cover ever! .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2009 7:54:21 GMT
You also look menacing in your avatar ............. I like menacing BWBWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2009 10:52:52 GMT
well I did talk to chris from reliks and he says I could get the castile sharpened if need be so its edge may not be an issue and I do realize the vast difference between the arming sword and the bristol, I kind of like the bristol better because a short sword would be very nice to handle, from my expirience with Wooden swords I have always preferred a short sword Im still not overly concerned worried about the weight, because I think that It is something I would be able to work past if it was an issue and if not than I will atleast have learned a valuable lesson about my personal sword preference If you like the Castile... I urge you to wait just a bit. Sonny at VA told me they are working on the next-gen Castile swords... they are going to be built of a different Angus Trim blade design... a type X with flared shoulders. It will be lighter then the first gen Castile, and with a MUCH better edge. I had two Castile's, I sold them... but I just might pick up the new one when it comes out, it sounds awesome. As for the Practical and the Bristol swords... I have both, and I love my Bristol a LOT more... but it is a lot more money also... and I tend to prefer short swords as well. Isn't new Castille going to be XII blade with flared shoulders?
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jul 2, 2009 11:20:22 GMT
I don't see why they would do a new Castile in a type XII. they already have sort of a type XII in the practical arming (I SAID SORT OF!!) and I think the Crusader will be a type XII. also I'd be darn puzzled to see a type X replaced by a type XII, but I'm not in the know on this and I've surprised before. I think Shadowhowler's info sounds more likely and very tasty to boot. it's no secret that the Castile missed the mark on a few categories and it seems to me that Sonny HATES missing the mark and likes to fix it when he does (hell of a guy our Sonny Suttles) so I'm not surprised at all to hear there's a Castile replacement in the works.
To Hairu - Uriah: well buddy sounds to me like you need to listen to the sword, it's calling you after all. sharpening services are all fine and good but just to point out, I sharpened an original Castile and in order to get that sucker to have a decent edge I had to take a full ounce of steel of the thing. course now it's a sword to be recconed with. Even the one that had the extra sharp edge from V.A. didn't make me happy, although it was a lot better than the original.
Brissybeater's comments on his Tinker/Hanwei viking sword are in line with everything I've heard about the Tinker/Hanwei line. awesome design and handling with dreamy steel but the edge leaves something to be desired. great for the guys who are comfortable sharpening their own but less so for the rest. Good swords all the same.
seriously, when you get to the store just start asking to handle all the ones on your list and anything else that catches your eye. pay close attention to the edge geometry and something will tell you that it must be yours. I'm betting on it being the Bristol. ;D have fun shopping
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Post by Sonny Suttles on Jul 2, 2009 19:17:07 GMT
well I did talk to chris from reliks and he says I could get the castile sharpened if need be so its edge may not be an issue and I do realize the vast difference between the arming sword and the bristol, I kind of like the bristol better because a short sword would be very nice to handle, from my expirience with Wooden swords I have always preferred a short sword Im still not overly concerned worried about the weight, because I think that It is something I would be able to work past if it was an issue and if not than I will atleast have learned a valuable lesson about my personal sword preference If you like the Castile... I urge you to wait just a bit. Sonny at VA told me they are working on the next-gen Castile swords... they are going to be built of a different Angus Trim blade design... a type X with flared shoulders. It will be lighter then the first gen Castile, and with a MUCH better edge. I had two Castile's, I sold them... but I just might pick up the new one when it comes out, it sounds awesome. As for the Practical and the Bristol swords... I have both, and I love my Bristol a LOT more... but it is a lot more money also... and I tend to prefer short swords as well. Actually Luka is correct. It will be a type XII with flared shoulders. Sonny
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Post by ShooterMike on Jul 2, 2009 19:20:33 GMT
I've seen a prototype photo of a new VA Type XII with the Castile hilt on a flared shoulder blade. I bet Luka has seen it too. I just can't remember where... myArmoury maybe? Or maybe on the VA website before the last rework? It sticks in my mind because I have an AT MM Type XII - Flared Shoulders that has been fitted to modified Castile furniture. The one in the picture is what I always thought that furniture would look good on. But I don't know if it will be named "Castile" or "Castile 2" or "Castile XII" or what-the-heck-ever. EDIT: DOH!!! Slammed by the man himself.
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Post by Sonny Suttles on Jul 2, 2009 19:23:01 GMT
Hey Tom, The new Castile type XII will be more in line with the sword that Christian was inspired by when he designed the Castile. Sonny
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2009 19:41:20 GMT
Hairu, Jonathan (or anyone else for that matter)...if you're serious in learning about, using and admiring swords, that is a veritable BIBLE for students of the sword. It'll also help with the usage of terminology and typology so when someone's talking about a type XVIIIe, it isn't just gibberish on-screen.
As far as heavier swords go, you have to go for what you know- most of the historical or historically accurate swords I've come across were in the range of 2-2.5 lbs and I firmly believe there was a reason for it.
We, as backyard cutters, re-enactors or just those who simply love to swing a sword about, do this for fun. Those of our ancestors who took up the sword for what it was made for, had to be able to use it in a manner consistent with how they were taught. A heavier sword would only mean losing out on stamina and strength as the contest wore on- and yes, you could train incessantly and get better with a heavier sword so that you could use it efficiently but even then, you might still be at a disadvantage against someone who was smaller, with a lighter sword and speed on their side. Just a thought.
Now that you mention, I can see it...King Sancho IV of Castile. I guess it just didn't click for me and I look at the cover of this book regularly; especially when I'm looking something up. You'd think the name would've done it for me but nope, it did not.
By the by, I have one of the 303S Custom Tuned variants; it isn't a heavy sword, but with a 6" POB it is not the most agile sword I've ever handled. The recovery's a bit slower than on one of my other swords with a larger pommel and a POB closer to the guard. It is a fine looking sword that does exactly what it was built to do- cut.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jul 2, 2009 19:45:56 GMT
oh, WOW! thanks Sonny, I'm a little out of touch right now, being out to sea limits my connection severly. I did not know the Castile was inspired by a type XII. that's a dang fancy-pants looking sword but once I look at the lines I can see the Castile hilt, you guys did a good job reproducing the shape and lines of the hilt. now it's going to be a flared shoulders XII, that sounds like a good sword.
thank you so much for the info
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2009 19:50:39 GMT
Mike's got a flared shoulders Type XII doesn't he? I love the look of that particular blade.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2009 21:28:16 GMT
I've seen a prototype photo of a new VA Type XII with the Castile hilt on a flared shoulder blade. I bet Luka has seen it too. I just can't remember where... myArmoury maybe? Or maybe on the VA website before the last rework? It sticks in my mind because I have an AT MM Type XII - Flared Shoulders that has been fitted to modified Castile furniture. The one in the picture is what I always thought that furniture would look good on. But I don't know if it will be named "Castile" or "Castile 2" or "Castile XII" or what-the-heck-ever. EDIT: DOH!!! Slammed by the man himself. Yes, I have seen it and I believe it was actually somewhere here on SBG... But who knows which topic...
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Post by shadowhowler on Jul 2, 2009 22:27:56 GMT
Actually Luka is correct. It will be a type XII with flared shoulders. Sonny Opps... my bad. Still, It's likely going on my to get list... I think it will be a VERY nice blade... I love flared shoulders.
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Post by ShooterMike on Jul 2, 2009 22:50:18 GMT
Here is a picture of my ATMM FS XII taken a few minutes ago. This is not the same blade as the new Castile. This Castile guard has been radically lightened and reshaped and the pommel has been lightened a bit, but it shows something similar.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jul 3, 2009 2:59:11 GMT
GAAAAR! she's a beauty Mike! I bet she handles well too.
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Post by shadowhowler on Jul 3, 2009 8:01:48 GMT
Me likey.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2009 14:47:19 GMT
That is a pretty sword I think Im gunna not get the castile since castile II will be superior
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