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Post by YlliwCir on May 15, 2009 4:12:49 GMT
What you all think of this sword?
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2009 4:23:48 GMT
Looks good! Weight is a bit high for me.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2009 5:01:33 GMT
I love the looks. The hilt looks a lot like an antique I saw in a book. Can't upload a picture of the antique because the lack of a scanner, might try photographing it later. It's definitely on my own wish list.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2009 5:26:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2009 5:29:29 GMT
love the look and style. might be a bit heavy though. guess nobody will know until one of us handles it.
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Post by shadowhowler on May 15, 2009 5:48:19 GMT
For that style of sword, I prefer the Hanwei Cromwell sword. That one looks really, really heavy if that weight is right.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2009 6:03:39 GMT
Erm is the weight on KoA correct? on the casiberia site its listed as: 2lb 5oz
edit; on casiberia.com the cromwell is listed at: 3lb 4oz. Personally I don't like the cromwell too much because of the gold accents but thats a personal preference.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2009 9:48:43 GMT
Ric, shame on you for not coming to me first.... This just the antiqued version on the standard Hanwei mort. Owning the standard, a Hanwei Cromwell mortuary, a Armour Class mortuary and spending about 5 years doing nothing but research on mortuary hilts, the ECW and Oliver Cromwell....this....hopefully will give you a little more info. on the sword. www.myarmoury.com/review_casi_mort.htmlcheers, Bill
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2009 10:47:25 GMT
G'day Rick I posted about mine when I got it last year, but damned if I can find the thread now I really like it a lot, but the guard was too small for my (enormous) hands, and I cut away part of the side-bars and bent out the rest to make a good fit. Mine weighs in at just under 2lb 2oz, so KoA made a typo! I haven't cut with it because the edge it came with just isn't sharp enough, and I've been waiting till I get one of those slack-belt sanders to put a better edge on it. The blade is quite slender and light, so it won't cut like an arming sword or a backsword, but if you add a bit of draw to your cutting action, I think it'll perform well on lighter targets. The antiquing on the hilt is very nice, and seems to be some sort of powder-coat. It's certainly very tough and durable- It stood up to my 'modifications' without any sign of flaking or scratching! Since I can't find my previous thread, I'll add some pictures of my hand in the guard and my solution, to give you an idea... The ProblemCause of the ProblemSolution to the ProblemAll Better! Hope this helps! Cheers Marc E
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on May 15, 2009 12:28:00 GMT
I saw thw 4lb 4 and couldn't believe it. Both my 07 and 09 CAS brochures list it as 2lb 5oz. So thats cool.
Poohze, whats the POB on yours, (considering the mod the std may be up to 0.5" further back)? Also how wide exactly are your knuckles across when you make a fist - bone only, ignoring the flesh.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2009 13:59:40 GMT
Poohze, whats the POB on yours, (considering the mod the std may be up to 0.5" further back)? Also how wide exactly are your knuckles across when you make a fist - bone only, ignoring the flesh. POB is now pretty much exactly 90mm, just over 3&1/2". I did take 'before and after' measurements, but can't find them just at the mo'. From memory, I think the POB only moved out about 1/4", if that. Knuckles are about 97mm across the fist, bone to bone, a hair under 4". Not really enormous, but I am finding it an issue with some swords. I had the chance to handle a couple of Weapon Edge items last week, and the German marine Officer's Sword's hilt was just too small for me, while the Five-Ball Spadroon was only just big enough. I bought the 1917 US Naval Cutlass, and even it doesn't have any room in the hilt to spare. Cheers Marc E
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2009 17:41:51 GMT
Well not the best quality picture but as promised the picture I found in a book:
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2009 17:52:20 GMT
Not my style of sword but I haven't gotten past the 13th C when it comes to my collection. At least, not the ones I LIKE. lol
This a new acquisition Ric?
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Post by YlliwCir on May 15, 2009 19:12:50 GMT
Thanks for the feedback, my friends. Yeah, I figured the weight was a typo.
Sean, I kinda like the look of this one more than the Cromwell, no offence, Bill, it's you're fault I'm looking at mortuary hilts btw. LOL
Damn, Poohze, ya got some paws there brother. I got a CS 1917 cutlass myself, nice weapon imo. No worries here, I got girlie hands and smallish girl at that.
Paladin, I'm considering this one very seriously.
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Post by hotspur on May 15, 2009 19:50:45 GMT
Hi Marc, I have not handled the Hanwei mortuary but it was your earlier thread in General that had me looking at the Cromwell instead. I had actually been bugging Bill about the mortuaries in recent weeks here. As to the too small approach, my hands are a shade larger than yours and do find some of my old swords confining. One thing for sure, hammer grips are less comfortable than a handshake. Try this on both those recent swords and see how you like it. In handling the swords, dismiss a hammer grip even when cutting. Turn the knuckle guard (whole hand) so that the grip is more akin to a handshake with your thumb to the flat of the blade. With smallswords as well, with the annulets inside the cup, one isn't putting the finger through but rather pinching them with the tip of the thumb and the side of your index finger. Flat parallel to the ground, yup, that's the ticket. The most confining guard on my spadroons is my slotted hilt. With that, the index finger and thumb nest neatly in the slots, not unlike the annulets on a small sword. Turn those bad girls from Weaponedge sideways like this if you are a lefty, other flat for a righty. Pinch them guards on the flats (or nestle) with your index finger and thumb. Lift the point oriented flat, guard with the guard inside, where you are most often to be struck by another. Slash on the bias and horinzontally, absolutely. Huzzah! Hotspur; eagerly awaiting more in hand from you with the five ball and otherAdding that nomex flight type gloves can run large, are uber comfortable and thin/lightweight (I need to replace a ten year old pair but the second are still running strong after even more years..
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Post by randomnobody on May 15, 2009 21:06:43 GMT
I'm still considering this model, as well, if I can ever handle one in-person. I've messed around with the practical model before, and found it tolerable, but I'd hope the sharp would be a little better. The Cromwell also has my eye, but it's a bit elaborate for my tastes...
That Armour Class of Billiam's, though, I am sorely tempted by...
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2009 22:51:50 GMT
Hi Marc ... As to the too small approach, my hands are a shade larger than yours and do find some of my old swords confining. One thing for sure, hammer grips are less comfortable than a handshake. Try this on both those recent swords and see how you like it. In handling the swords, dismiss a hammer grip even when cutting. Turn the knuckle guard (whole hand) so that the grip is more akin to a handshake with your thumb to the flat of the blade. With smallswords as well, with the annulets inside the cup, one isn't putting the finger through but rather pinching them with the tip of the thumb and the side of your index finger. Flat parallel to the ground, yup, that's the ticket. The most confining guard on my spadroons is my slotted hilt. With that, the index finger and thumb nest neatly in the slots, not unlike the annulets on a small sword. Turn those bad girls from Weaponedge sideways like this if you are a lefty, other flat for a righty. Pinch them guards on the flats (or nestle) with your index finger and thumb. Lift the point oriented flat, guard with the guard inside, where you are most often to be struck by another. Slash on the bias and horinzontally, absolutely. Thanks Glen! Even using a 'handshake' grip the German Marine Officer's Sword was a no-go. Just no room for my pinkie, no way, no how! Not really what I'm after at the moment anyway, so no loss. The pics I posted above show me using a hammer grip 'cause that was the only way I could take a picture at the angle I wanted with my other hand The Five-ball is definitely on my list, and I'll certainly review it when I get one! The Napoleon Briquet and Figure-eight cutlass are probably first, however. Hmmm, and maybe the 1796 Heavy Cavalry Saber.... ;D Cheers Marc E PS- Oh, and Random, I was lining up to order the Armour Class Mort just when the Global Financial Ballsup came down. Exchange rate from AUD to the British Pound just about doubled the price! I think it's the best option if you want a more cut-oriented sword, for sure!
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2009 2:41:37 GMT
I'm still considering this model, as well, if I can ever handle one in-person. I've messed around with the practical model before, and found it tolerable, but I'd hope the sharp would be a little better. The Cromwell also has my eye, but it's a bit elaborate for my tastes... That Armour Class of Billiam's, though, I am sorely tempted by... tempter....it calls to you........ www.myarmoury.com/review_ac_mort.php?sid=0f4bd46208a774c6661d1a76b056ec7eeven though it's a tad heavier than my Hanwei mortuary #2004...it still feel much lighter due to the fantastic balance....
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