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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2009 11:34:27 GMT
Who's got a V-A I-Beam trainer and what's the scoop? did a "search" but it came back 0......
I'm in the market for a new blunt trainer.....pretty much sold on one from Heimrick Armory in Canada, but recently spotted this on KOA.
cheers,
Bill
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Post by ShooterMike on May 6, 2009 12:38:30 GMT
Bill,
I have an I-beam longsword and an I-beam arming sword Gus Trim built, that was the inspiration for VA offering these. I believe Sonny saw mine when he was visiting and decided they were something he was interested in offering. Or maybe he'd already decided on doing them and just wanted to have a closer look at mine.
In any case, Bill Tsafa and Adam Sharp sparred with them a bit. And we did controlled drills with my longsword against Adam's Albion Maestro Leichtenauer. The consensus is that they are a bit too stiff at the tip for sparring, even with armour. The longsword is close. The arming sword is very rigid. Much too rigid for serious sparring. However, they make an awesome tool for working the pell and for forms drilling.
Of course, this is feedback on the I-beam blunts Gus built. I haven't seen the ones Sonny is bringing in. They may be different in the area of flex.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2009 15:47:44 GMT
Thanks Mike... don't know how I've managed to spotting these until now. hoping someone will chime in that's got one..... www.valiant-armoury.com/va/at305IB.pdfWhat's got me on sights with the Heimrick is the durabilty factor those that have one I'v etalked to keep mentioning and the fact that you can almost custom build one with the different pommel, grip, guard options he offers. heimrick.netfirms.com/infos.htmlcheers, Bill
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2009 16:37:21 GMT
I asked this once before but don't remember getting a rersponse- why is it called an I-beam?
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Post by shadowhowler on May 6, 2009 16:55:52 GMT
I asked this once before but don't remember getting a rersponse- why is it called an I-beam? Cus the way the sword is constructed, it kinda looks like one.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2009 18:34:06 GMT
Huh; that simple. Thanks Sean.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2009 20:36:11 GMT
Maybe windlass should make one, their excessive sag and whippiness would come in handy for a change
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Post by ShooterMike on May 8, 2009 13:04:13 GMT
Heh, heh, yeah, no kidding. Windlass could OWN this market! I think the main problem with the I-Beam design is that it functions like... an I-Beam is supposed to. That being, to provide exceptional rigidity with reduced mass. As far as durability goes, the I-Beams I have are INDESTRUCTIBLE. Even though they both weigh about 2.5 lbs, I'd match their durability to any sword I've ever seen. And since they're made from the standard 0.250" stock with Allen nut tang, they can be customized with just about any Gus guard, pommel and grip of appropriate length. One of the things I like best about the design is that even at its narrowest point, the edge is still a full 0.100" wide. No chance of cutting anything with that. Now if I can just figure out how to get lots of flex from the tip half of the blade...
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2009 17:34:21 GMT
yes Mike, the flex is what I'm most interested in getting feedback on. The price from KOA is very good which is another conbributing factor in my interest. this is the Heimrick I hopefully will be able to order mid-summer may go with a different pommel, but this is pretty much it. cheers, Bill
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Post by ShooterMike on May 8, 2009 18:23:13 GMT
That seems to be a very interesting maker. I like their aesthetics. Their longsword tips look to be pretty pointy. But it may just be the angle and lighting.
Good luck with this. If it works out well for you, I'm sure others of us will be interested. Thanks for finding and sharing.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2009 18:26:57 GMT
That seems to be a very interesting maker. I like their aesthetics. Their longsword tips look to be pretty pointy. But it may just be the angle and lighting. Good luck with this. If it works out well for you, I'm sure others of us will be interested. Thanks for finding and sharing. most folks I've talked to that have a Heimrick have said they round the tip off more, but other than that, they are very, very durable and nice handling blunt swords.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2009 20:49:43 GMT
Maybe windlass should make one, their excessive sag and whippiness would come in handy for a change Windlass does make blunts.
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Post by randomnobody on May 8, 2009 22:11:52 GMT
Yes, but some would argue they aren't "blunt enough," and their tips are still quite pointed. They'll need to round 'em off for a proper training blunt. Those Heimrick swords are gorgeous; I'm especially taken by the one posted here (though the rest are certainly nice as well); I can't find (and am afraid to ask ) any pricepoint info on the website...any ideas, billiam? If only they sold 'em sharp, too.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2009 2:27:49 GMT
Yes, but some would argue they aren't "blunt enough," and their tips are still quite pointed. They'll need to round 'em off for a proper training blunt. Those Heimrick swords are gorgeous; I'm especially taken by the one posted here (though the rest are certainly nice as well); I can't find (and am afraid to ask ) any pricepoint info on the website...any ideas, billiam? If only they sold 'em sharp, too. I was talking about their blunts made for stage combat.
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Post by randomnobody on May 9, 2009 5:33:01 GMT
Oh, well in that case, I was not aware of those, either.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2009 10:28:51 GMT
Those Heimrick swords are gorgeous; I'm especially taken by the one posted here (though the rest are certainly nice as well); I can't find (and am afraid to ask ) any pricepoint info on the website...any ideas, billiam? Right now with the exchange rate ....the one I'm hope to have made roughly $275 USD. JP said it takes him about 8 weeks to get one done, so my reasoning for waiting until mid-Summer to order (my b-day is early Sept. and hopefully could get extra funds to put toward this ) cheers, Bill
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Post by randomnobody on May 9, 2009 15:31:10 GMT
Wow, that's an incredible price. I might have to shoot off an email...
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