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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jun 27, 2008 5:06:22 GMT
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Post by 293master293 on Jun 27, 2008 6:13:19 GMT
Sweet review and nice cutting. On the whippyness problem, this is much to be expected considering that these blades are made by Windlass Steelcrafts. I was also surprised to see the Windlass scabbard. I thought Cold Steel made their own scabbards.
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Post by admin on Jun 27, 2008 7:09:26 GMT
Great review Tom, I too have wondered about this sword as it does look very 'sci fi' in most pics, so it was great to see that its not the case...
Nice review and decent sword, +30 review points and +1 karma ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2008 12:22:45 GMT
Great review, and nice cutting. That one didn't fit in the carport did it? Oh and +1
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jun 27, 2008 12:36:19 GMT
well it would have but it was gloomy day and it seemed like the light under the tree was better than in the carport. I'm a little confused about something though, how do know who makes the sword? I mean it turns out that this is a windlass sword not a cold steel. Master293 knew this right away, but how? we need a class on how to recognise swords and their real manufacturer. people think different things when they think Cold Steel than Windlass.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2008 12:53:12 GMT
I'm doubly confused now. I was looking at pictures of the discontinued Windlass schiavona , and thinking, "now we know what windlass did with the left over baskets. " They are obviously the same baskets. "Cold steel" is stamped on the blade though. The blades are similar also, but the stamp would say otherwise.
I read (on My Armoury iirc) that this basket prevents you from fingering the ricasso, while finger protection is supposed to be part of the function of that type of hilt. That is the only thing that prevented me from buying the windlass version awhile back. Is that the case with this one too?
Anyway, glad to hear it's well built, and it looks like they did well on the handle. Handsome sword, and good review.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2008 14:37:33 GMT
I read somewhere that Windlass is making all Cold Steel swords just with a better finish work than classic Windlass finish...
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Post by YlliwCir on Jun 27, 2008 16:18:38 GMT
Ian, nice review and very good testing. +1 CS has sparked my interest of late. They seem to be a mixed bag, not unlike Windlass, hmmmmm? I seem to remember hearing somewhere that they use the same forge in India, tho I may be perpetuating misinformation.
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Post by 293master293 on Jun 27, 2008 16:28:43 GMT
Windlass makes all of their I handed swords for sure. I know that they do not make CS's katana, and I am not sure who makes their two-handed euro-line.
EDIT* And you can tell by the shape and design of the scabbard that this is made by Windlass.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jun 27, 2008 22:11:14 GMT
Thanks Master good info. no there is no getting your finger past the basket to anywhere. I intend to put a trigger loop in the basket up top for my index finger but only because my SCA basket hilters have it too and I love the extra leverage it gives for clean snappy shots. as near as I can tell the old windlass schiavona is exactly the same sword. the blades look exactly the same too. interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2008 22:19:05 GMT
Cool sword and great demo video!!
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jun 27, 2008 22:59:39 GMT
hey if anyone wants to see better pictures of inside the hilt check out my thread in the customization board (yup I've messed with it already). htread here: /index.cgi?board=swordcustom&action=display&thread=5425
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2008 0:26:52 GMT
Just a quick comment on cold steel sabers and basket hilts being blunt on the lower half: Cold steels dvd "Fighting with the saber and cutlass" CS prez Lynn gives a rundown on how to have your saber set up and recommends leaving it that way for half swording and (he doesn't say it) parrying with the edge.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2008 21:36:32 GMT
Great review! I have a couple questions. First, another member here had one of these and she discovered that the pommel nut only engaged a small portion of the tang threads. I don't remember the exact amount, but there was only something like 1/8" of tang extending beyond the pommel for the nut to screw onto. What's your experience in this regard? Also, you mention the hilt being tightened in two places: the end of the grip and the end of the pommel. So, is there a nut that holds the grip in place under the pommel and then the pommel nut itself? As far as the Windlass connection goes. The late Hank Reinhardt who used to head up MRL stated that Windlass was indeed making several of Cold Steel's Western/European swords. Awhile ago, too, one of our members posted a pic of a Cold Steel sword (can't remember the exact model) that clearly had the remnants of a Windlass logo on the blade that apparently hadn't been fully polished off.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2008 23:28:58 GMT
it was the shamshir and the person was paul
but i dont think windlass makes ALL of there blades just probley a few
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2008 23:44:13 GMT
it was the shamshir and the person was paul Ah, yes! Thanks.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jul 2, 2008 14:37:35 GMT
Great review! I have a couple questions. First, another member here had one of these and she discovered that the pommel nut only engaged a small portion of the tang threads. I don't remember the exact amount, but there was only something like 1/8" of tang extending beyond the pommel for the nut to screw onto. What's your experience in this regard? Also, you mention the hilt being tightened in two places: the end of the grip and the end of the pommel. So, is there a nut that holds the grip in place under the pommel and then the pommel nut itself? As far as the Windlass connection goes. The late Hank Reinhardt who used to head up MRL stated that Windlass was indeed making several of Cold Steel's Western/European swords. Awhile ago, too, one of our members posted a pic of a Cold Steel sword (can't remember the exact model) that clearly had the remnants of a Windlass logo on the blade that apparently hadn't been fully polished off. Yup, you got it right there's a nut right behind the grip that holds it in place. thought I had a picture of it. . . nope can't find it. the nut behind the grip does all the real work of holding the hilt together the nut behind pommel only holds the pommel on. The pommel slides right over the nut and hides it well. so I wouldn't worry about it only grabing a small portion of the threads. it is basically cosmetic. still, I peened mine out. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2008 6:24:01 GMT
Not a bad idea at all (peening, that is). I see now in the first pic there's no visible pommel nut. Now I know why. ;D Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2008 21:20:51 GMT
ianflaer Nice review, I wish you review this sword back in early May so I could find some excuse to get one at Coldsteel parking lot sale. The one that I handle there was rather heavy and full of packaging grease but they marked the price down very low . I guess I have to wait for the factory second sale flyer next time then.
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